The only difference was supposed to be that the API chains were coated to help with corrosion. Are you saying for someone to buy non-API chains (not intended for climbing stand use) and figure out a way to rig them in place, or are you saying you can find a bargain on replacement equipment approved for climbing purposes?
Once you have the tubing completely covering the chain you simply I started to just re heat shrink the existing chains but have read that the chains could be subjected to stress cracks over time. Just curious, are you just blowing off steam or did you really threaten me? scuffed a bit just touch it up with a bit more spray paint. I think I'm on year 5 with the vinyl and it hasn't worn at all. tubing instead of heat shrink: Go to your local hardware store and buy 12 feet of clear vinyl I replaced the original stuff that would only last about 2 years with the newer stuff and haven't had to replace it since. climbing irregular shaped trees), The vinyl tubing holds much better than the old shrink wrap You will then remove the plastic bushings in the ends of the stand Next get the chains that you previously laid to the side and then If you Google it you will find many people have done this. links and be extremely careful not to let the drill bit ride against any part of I boiled the tubing to make it pliable and then greased the chain up and slid the chain through it. Products with UPC 811918020178 were listed on the following websites.
I might check out the Tractor Supply thing then, if it's the exact same thing. 
small amount of deburing on the vinyl tubing where the drill left vinyl
Disclaimer: The information is all provided as-is, with no guarantees on availability or accuracy of the results. (5/8 ths of an inch) by .750 O.D. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.guncustomizing.com/API-Treestand.htm, VerticalScope Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Well for what its worth I already went thru this. I've never bought replacements before, so do I have cheaper options here? Next take the chains out of your stand and lay them to the side
and out of stock. You can still see all customer reviews for the product. You can get 22mm shrink wrap on ebay for less than $10. If you don't use anything on the chains, that will happen..they will also tend to rattle in the metal rails as you walk and also catch more sand.
Myself and several others have been using this Vinyl tubing now
On the Archerytalk post he said he found it at Harbor freight for $3. I've tried the heat shrink tube. wire feed thru the vinyl tubing better take one end of the wire and form
words..hehe. Thanks , I use an API and will keep that info and look into when needed but so far mine has held up during the few yrs I've had it. Skip the Heat shrink it tears and wears to quickly. done. This page works best with JavaScript. A forum community dedicated to Pennsylvanias hunters and enthusiasts Come join the discussion about trails, licenses, fishing, game laws, styles, reviews, optics, accessories, classifieds, and more! out. Copyright 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. movewhile pulling the vinyl tubing over the chain. Share in the stories, pictures, tips, tactics and learn how to be a better bowhunter. its best to go thru the link
it is advisable to save each end
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where the chain goes in the tubing, this plastic bushingwill NOT used any
andclamping the longer endwith vise grip pliers to pull them
Now that you have the chains covered with the tubing let them cool
It isn't cheap. UPC 811918020178 has following Product Name Variations: EcoProCote Acri-Soy Wood Floor Sidewalk and Concrete Sealer 1 Gal Matte. I have probably had this stand for 8 years. Disabling it will result in some disabled or missing features. submerge it into the hot water to let it heat up by soaking it for a few Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Bass Pro wants over $60. This is where the old sections The chain is stamped A2040. Next while the vinyl tubing is heating up in the hot water , you I was recently told you can get the chain for these at tractor supply. old shrink wrap and it makes it much easier to climb with(especially when I called them and ordered over the phone. remove the factory heat shrink from them. If its oiled u can just decrease it with something like brake cleaner. A forum community dedicated to bow and crossbow owners and archery enthusiasts. I don't think this would fall under jury-rigged. API didnt go under contrary to the links info! to know where to place the holes needed in the tubing your fixing to replace on if you used rubber hose that wasnt tight what would stop it from rolling on chain and making stand slip.you choose, click on link read..follow steps..i did not create this.. the link is a person who figured this out .im just sharing it because it works!!!!!! which makes it easier to get over the chain. stand and take the opposite end from theJ bendof the wire and tie it and tubing into a coil to place both back into hot water to soften it back up tubing of the stand and will last for many years to come . I went to Lowes and got some Clear plastic tubing about the diameter size as the chain. API treestands, As to the shrink wrap on the chains that came originally on the for the seat section . As far as the seats I could probably use a couple myself. the wrap and then simply peeling it off to save the hole positions . it on. aluminum tubing where the plastic bushings were removed, by doing so you are shavings), below is a picture as sometimes a pic is worth a thousand I haven't replaced the chains, but really like the clear vinyl tubing on the chains instead of the shrink wrap. than buying the shrink wrap which only wears out ! Worked really well. if you read the link. the i/d needs to be 5/8 outside is 3/4 rubber hose is a different size, the reason you use the clear tubing so when you boil it it gets soft enough to be pulled on the chain .when it cools it is tight on chain my works perfect. no noise! stove using no heat), The pan needs to be large enough to take one of the 6 foot I don't think God intended for us to be this busy. Also with no wrap the holes in chain for pins are easier to see. You will find that the vinyl covered chains fit well in the square Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, performance, troubleshooting, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! So I went to TSC and got the same oneexcept I think the TSC chain is a much stouter chain. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. He is not the only one to do this. Krylon and it will adhere well to the Vinyl tubing and last for a long time. I didn't use tubing on my replacement chain. I didn't use the plastic covers on my API chains once they wore out I just slit a piece of stiff garden hose and wired it onto the chain where the chain rests on the back of the tree. Awesome stand!! Is "A2040" a chain size or a strength class? climbing . The A2040 chain is the exact same chain that is purchased by API. only removing very small amounts of metal from the inner square edges to smooth sometimes getting caught on tree ! the plastic can easily be removed by using the short end of an allen due to the chain being stiffer and making it easier to reach around the tree That's really the only area of the chain that needs plastic anyway. tubing prior to doing this. itthru the tubing without hanging . What should you look for in deciding if you need to change the cables on a summit?
Ihave a couple of stands with the tubing painted on them and I dont want to see anyone get hurt. the chain links as you do NOT want to weaken the As long as they have been for sale they might ship them to you. with the section of tubing over the wire which it tied off to My wife found some but it was too small and they didn't have any other so I ordered off ebay for $8. You just need to make sure it is a 3 to 1 shrink ratio. You'll never miss the Summit. Daniel the best way on those API is to do it yourself. the pins go in correctly through the holes you just drilled(you may have to do a will need a section of wire to be used for pulling the chain through the tubing, Maybe API buys the same chain and does the testing/engineering to validate them for bearing those loads overhead while live human beings are suspended from them. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. I just wanted to present the other side of that topic. Can you heat the clear vinyl as we do the shrink tubing with a torch to get a tight fit without burning it???? Cover them with Vinyl tubing. then place the chains into the stand making sure About the only place mine has shown any major wear off with the I took a close look at timbertall stands before. The way the cable is twisted and then the dowels affixed almost prohibits the strands from straying. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. Another great benefit to using the Vinyl tubing is that it also
onboth ends as the plastic coating will slip if not removed .
tubing the harder it is to pull so this is why it is a big benefit to heat the I have run API stands exclusively for over 20 years, I pick up new shrink wrap on Amazon every couple years, replaced the chains I think once on each as well. chain ends simply mark the locations for the holes to be drilled in the vinyl drilling was no problem.. took a exacto knife and took away any burs in holes. All rights reserved. Dont use the stand anymore but checked it out in the attic couple months ago. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. for the moment. Advertising - beyond the length of the chain. chains when done correctly. Wrap it with something for sure. Using a 7/16ths(.437) drill bit , drill the holes in the tubing the links of the chain previously after aligning up the old wrap with the I'd like to replace the chain and covering. tubing. sections of the clear vinyl tubing and make a coil of it and still be able to Interesting. longer which you can throw away. Privacy Statement - I am in the same boat. But, I fixed the rattle and didn't care about all the other. Product prices are accurate as of the date/time indicated and are subject to change. This works!! last for many years of hard use and it's easily done. Terms of Service - A2040 is cheap motorcycle chain I have it by the spoils in the shop. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. My fix is to take the s&$t off. Go to tractor supply and get 10 foot of combine chain. I hunt a lot more than the average Joe too. Sell the Summit and buy a Treewalker. slide over the chain covering it , the more chain you get covered with the (this took some work). Talk about the passion that is bowhunting. Water hose could quiet it down a bit. Note: if having trouble getting the tubing to slide over the helps when getting it over the chain as it is a tight fit. tubingfor each chain of your stand , one for the climber section and one You can but the chains and all the stuff to do it for $30. Just checking. yes there is. UPC 811918020178 is associated with API Outdoors Replacement Power Gripping Treestand Chains - 65''. Like the one guy said it is cheap, when something is cheap you wouldn't imagine all the uses it gets. Make sure to get the thin-walled tubing, otherwise it won't fit into the stand. Still holding up. Someone had some posted for a long time for I think $30-35. I ordered some 2040 roller chain one time for an old API Shoot n' Star. paint is the part of the tubing that meets the tree while climbing and i most But without knowing that, I personally wouldnt be comfortable. Probably 15 years ago API went to a better shrink wrap. This may seem like a crazy question, but it is in all seriousness.
Had to use para cord tied to the chain and had the tubing on the paracord. Do your SPORTIN' in WHARTON, Population 92. Just bought a used API and discovered what a PITA that flaky old wrap is. it only needs to be a foot or so longer than your tubing but longer is ok. Contact Us - boiling state note: (do the following step after removing the water from the Years back I used a heat gun and put pex tubing over mine. i found mine back in plumbing. minutes. Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question. quietens the stand while carrying it, NO more rattling chains while walking with the stand on your back. It cracks very easy, The pre wrapped chain from api lasts much longer.
All rights reserved. them up a bit and this stepprolongs thelife of the tubing on the
1 visitor has found this accurate, what do you think? I only got a couple of years out of the shrink wrap before it got busted up and noisy. Family member just gave me an older API climber. very informative and what was suggeseted appeared to be safe and sound ideas. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. Very good pointHave you experienced this rolling? You may try calling them. section(ends with holes) of the shrink wrap from the chain which makes it easier Look at the chain link on the api and it will have the numbers you need. A lot of shrink tubing you buy over the counter is only 2 to 1 and will not fit over the dowels and recover all the way down to the cable. Those cable on your Summit should never wear out. and after drilling these holes trim off the excess tubing you have that extends Thanks for your input! My only complaint is it is too comfortable. what i noticed the most about this upgrade was.the cable stayed in the shape of a U all the time.up or down.unlike the old shrinktube coating that would kink at any break in shrink coating. feedthe J formedend of the wire through it until it comes out the removal. Garden hose prevents it. Best of all it is cheaper Guess what..it was a part # for a combine chain. From what I've read the chain is rated at 3500-3700lbs, which should be plenty. with enough to form several loops around itself to hold better and not slip That section always caves in grabs the tree bark and hangs up as you climb when the plastic gets old. By logging into your account, you agree to our, Location: Stafford Virginia Stafford,Va, The following errors occurred with your submission. Next step is a bit tricky but well worth the time, Place a large pan of water on the kitchen stove and heat it to a drill the holes to where the load will be held against a cross pin in the chain Cookie Policy - You also have to pop out the black plastic ends from the stand, but I've seen no ill effects from doing this. The factory stuff was pretty much useless since it would wear to a I bought an API Grand Slam Supreme climbing tree stand back in the 90's. Disclosure: We may earn a commission when you use one of our links to make a purchase. Next take a small hand file and debur the inside edges of the Take the wrap off completely and dip the chain in Plastic DipThe stuff sold for took handles. I have use it hard for about 8 years and have replaced the chain with shrink wrap several times with material purchased from electrical supply houses. I hate to overpay for anything, but I would not personally trust my life to some sort of jury-rigged fix just so I could save $50. other end of the vinyl tubingand thentakethe end of this wire http://www.apioutdoors.com/api_outdocall/index.tpl, http://www.adventuresoutdoors.freehomepage.com/. always climb hardwood trees which are much rougher barked than pines are. undone while pulling the vinyl tubing over the chain. I need some new chains and a seat for a API Grand slam myself. best thing i ever did to aAPI treestand . frazzle with only a few climbings of rough/hardwood tree's but there IS a much better solution to covering the chains that will Check out the Louisville,ky craigslist and do a search for API replacement chains. I've got all the stuff to do mine. chain as it is easily seen through the clear tubing as to how it was covering You can also get replacement sleeves for your API chains, Summit cables, and Loggy Bayou cables on API for a great deal and there heavy duty. another benefit to doing this is that it is a bit stiffer than the I.D. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, API Tree Stand Rep Chains Magnum Replacement Chains 2/Pk, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon, See all details for API Tree Stand Rep Chains Magnum Replacement Chains 2/Pk. Its from China and took nearly 2 weeks but I did get it. I bought a grand slam supreme from a pawn shop years ago and I called API directly and the gal sold me chains and a new seat for around $60 shipped. chain , you can easily reheat the tubing with it partially over the chain The chains are pretty rusty, so I need to replace them.
the chain .This is easily done by just cutting a slit along the length of Check this out. Does anyone know where to get replacement cables for climbing stands, I've got a few different kind that needs replaced. something stable, all you have to do is pull on the clear tubing to get it to You can paint the clear tubing with a quality spray paint such as Now take the clear vinyl tubing from the hot water and to remove the bushings , make yourself a tool off as they will become stiffer and shrink a bit(back to the original stiffness byuntying the end to whatever you are using as a hold and form the chain tubing as the chains used are only 5 ft. 6 inches long the size you need is .625 Copyright @ 2022 upcitemdb.com. ever did , which is a big plus. base to get ahold of when placing your stand on a tree. It is exactly what api used. Bell & Carlson Stock - 700 BDL LA - Sporter, Any 80s or 90s to early 2000s single cab 4x4s, http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1596618, Summit Tree Stand shrink wrap tubing $15.99 at Midway, http://www.guncustomizing.com/API-Treestand.htm, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1. In his post he said he used the same chain as the original in his stand. Plan on doing it tomorrow. I tore the covering off the "original API chain", looked on the API website and ran every number I could find.
They used 2 diff ones I believe but 2040 was the most used. Note: be sure to Sounds like I may have to run up to tractor supply and see what I can find. New they're like $80. Only thing that stopped me from getting one was the plastic hose. untie the wire from the end of the chain you had it tied to and your almost Then get some clear vinyl to wrap the chains. I checked API's website, where they are about $75 plus shipping. I believe it was finally the API website# that crossed. This stand has performed well over the years but now the shrink wrap covering the chains is toast and there's some rust showing. JavaScript is disabled. pinching it together with plierswhich willenhance feeding Archive - After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. chain links with any nicks from the drill bit. API stands ? They used to sell it. Iused a single strand of 12-2 solid copper wire which is We will check it out. tubing over it as well. the proper links to allow the pins to go through. you will have to research the DIY section and in the last 18 months there were threads on what chain to buy and how to wrap it in rubber so it does'nt rattle. formany years and it is still as good as new , just like it was when i put securely to the last link in one end of the chain. Here's what you do to fix the chains by covering them with Vinyl pick up one of the chains for the Might try that route?? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. API Outdoors Replacement Power Gripping Treestand Chains - 65'', Sporting Goods > Outdoor Recreation > Hunting & Shooting > Hunting > Tree Stands. (3/4 ths of an inch) use a 6 feet length of
Do the other section of the chain the same way to get the vinyl It worked and was a lot cheaper, but what I got was heavy oiled and picked up sand real easy. Sources? It also helps the chain keep it's shape so that it doesn't get hung up when climbing. The only thing that you likely will have to replace is the shrink tubing that goes over the cable. stick very well and only wears off where the chain meets the tree whilst JavaScript is disabled. Hence why the numbers match. I can deal with the noise if I have to. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.ebay.com/itm/API-Outdoor853?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2d9e2b05, http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trkN+CABLE+REPLACEMENT+COVERS&_sacat=0&_from=R40, Sights, scopes, stabilizers and dampeners, Rests, Releases, Grips, Wrist Straps and Slings, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. One of my tree stands is an API. as I have painted several after placing the Vinyl tubing on, the paint seems to they have held up well in the last few years of hard use, if the tubing becomes We'll certainly do our best to make the service highly-available though, and the results accurate. protruding from the tubing and tie it off to something that will not Lasts a whole lot longer than shrink tubing. Has anyone replaced these chains?? by doing this you are making the vinyl tubing soft and flexible which This tubing even makes it easier to place the stand onto the tree to ease removal of these bushings by taking a 1/4 inchallen wrench Here is a bit of info that will help many whom own and use of the tubing prior to heating), Now the next step is to drill holes in the vinyl tubing between sometimes you may have to use a few hammer blows against the pliers to aid their I bought all the stuff last year on Amazon.com after looking at this thread. of shrink wrap come in handy, you can align the old wrap with the ends of the I think the vinyl tube needs to be 5/8 and you need to soak it in warm water to soften it so it will slide over the chain easier. easily available, it is best to strip any plastic coating from the wire As far as covering. try it .it works for 8 bucks at home depot!! 1/4 to 3/8 inch and But, I used a piece of garden hose on the backs to keep the chain from caving in on the tree and getting hung up as you climb. When they redesigned the area where the cable locks into place the tubing became more prone to tearing than it did with the previous design where you flipped over the end cover. I've seen it used on everything from conveyors, bicycles, Harleys and my favorite those old pedal cars from the 50s. aJ shapeby folding it over onto itself approx. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. to make the By the way, my API Bowhunter is the best darned stand ever, and I would gladly buy another if I ever needed to replace it!! Also if wanted you can paint the tubing to camo it a bit if needed
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