The ZF Marine Factory Certified Technicians at Control Masters have extensive training and Pain to change the belts but I now carry a few spares. I switched to Morse control and never looked back. Copyright 2020 Control Masters Marine Systems Corp. All rights reserved. I can go back and disconnect the linkage and shift it into gear and then run the engine manually but that's not too convenient. Tech support is still good but inventory is questionable. Advertising - Glendenning makes controls too. Could even be something as simple as adjusting the cables. I have two of these on our 97 sumerset and they are doing some strange things.

828-508-4201 . Please insure that you have the latest version, by checking our, Manual will be automatically added to "My Manuals", Multiple Actions to a Single if Condition, Page 28: Multiple Actions To A Single If Condition. All rights reserved. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Thanks P for the explanation. Mike's already bought a new helm unit so doesn't need to swop stuff about. 1704 Lakeside Avenue, Suite 3 HANDHELD REMOTE CONTROL. It's rare when it operates as intended. Im still having trouble with my Hynautic Controls and am seriously considering replacing the whole mess with an electronic system. It's been a while (years?) So it's possible (I've no idea of the likelihood) that there is a bad connection with the "electrical control valves"? Please contact us on our toll free tech support line for assistance, or use the link below to For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Cookie Policy - Contact Us - Still follow the BOC forum though, I love it as a great recourse for good info. Copyright 2017-2022 Big Lake Media LLC, PALMER, AK. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. Have also had problems with grounds "leaking" which will show strange power readings. Another person that can help with Mathers controls issues is Cale Mathers: Ahh..another too fancy for salt water conditions..Once again if you have a lot or some electronics..you can expect failure. Saint Augustine, Florida 32084 Gee Thanks Ed.its a small world, fancy bumping in to you here. Archive - I have noted some questions in regards to Mather's and ZF Engine Controls. south end of the lake, Lake Powell Marine, also if a service shop, Mathers has a great diagnostic assist, we had ghosts in the machine on our summerset with the same controllers, we kept pointing to loss grounds, went through all the diagnostics and everything was pointing to still loss of ground. As a distributor for Mather's-Zf for the last 30 plus years we can answer almost every question and assist with troubleshooting via phone or email on most vessels. I do have the micro commanders at four locations on board our 58LRC.

Email: sales@marineenginecontrols.com. ZF has owned Mathers for quite some time. I have enough errant electrons as it is . Do I need to grease the lead screw? I thought I heard that there were some out there with ball bearings that were supposed to be pretty smooth. JavaScript is disabled. Hi Andrew, This is Ed with Control Masters and I am responding to you both via your email and via the BOC so everyone can have the same information. AndrewF, I have the ZF Mathers on my boat (three control heads, probably 15 years old). Some think that attaching electronic controls to mechanical engines is problematic. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. there are 2 types of control heads, if you have them here is a linc to the mathers install manual. but Ed helped me out with some control issues, parts, and advice. Mathers can be vexing. ZF MARINE ENGINE CONTROLS I've had a bit of a run in recently with the people who look after my boat because, whilst they are putting the flybridge cushions away inside the boat every time we leave, I suspect that they are not putting the covers on the flybridge which means that the ZF unit is open to the elements all the time. If you are in S Fl there is a Hynautic expert who could rebuild your system. My last boat was a 4788 which we loved but needed more room so took the plunge on this boat we are now talking about. I think since 1998? Production moved from Mukilteo, WA to ZF Arco, Italy. Our experience along with our extensive inventory of parts ensures that your Find someone that knows the system and fix it. Can someone get me in touch with this Ed guy?? Just thought I would update anyone interested in this issue. experience in all of the ZF Marine Control Systems. If Mike's engines are mechanical then the issue could be at the actuator end. I was impressed with the price and looked like an easy installation.Pat. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. That said the biggest repeat issue with them is either related to a clean and consistent power supply or grounds. View Full Version : Mathers Micro Commander controls. Thanks. they are wonderful controls. Micro Commander I would like to see about fixing them in the off season. They have been problem free ever since. Whether you have a MicroCommander, ClearCommand, JavaScript is disabled. Thanks. Took me a good while to figure out it wasn't just me going crazy. This page was generated at 10:25 AM. I half suspected that. Is there a need to do maintenance on the MicroCommander actuator? This manual is a live document, and will be, updated often with new information. -ELECTRONIC CONTROLS- If I were installing today, I probably would go with a different brand, with Glendenning getting a serious look. The price was reasonable and he's happy with the performance of the new controls so far. I have them and live with them. The PO had not had the glycol is the system changed ever so it had turned into sludge. http://www.atlantismarine.co.uk/Images/User//File/585CE [585CE&813CE] Manual [English].pdf. Phone: 904-260-9756 The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum, Boating How-Tos : The Kerno Memorial Forum, Fishing & Miscellaneous Items -- PRIVATE sellers only, Fishing & Miscellaneous Items -- COMMERCIAL sellers only, Boat Commercial Classifieds and Marine Services, CMC, Inc - Ocean-Tamer Marine Bean Bags, Outboard Specialties - World's Largest Suzuki Re-Power Dealer, Semperfifishing - Marine Electronics & Transducer Sales. Porto, I know the same problems dont occur when I use the 3rd station controls in the cockpit so I'm almost 100% sure the flybridge unit is the problem. He's the go-to guy if you have one of these systems. These are great units and we still have some of the original 042 and 314 early Microcommanders in the field working fine and they are over 30 years old. I think they all use a similar worm screw and belt arrangement. submit a request to us. Someone keyed the SSB and the throttles instantly pinned!!! Would be interested in the forums thoughts on traditional cables. Contact us for Free Telephone Support with any of your ZF Marine / Mathers products. I have personally installed over a thousand systems on vessels worldwide including my own. Yup, of course an electronic signal alone can't engage/disengage gear - ultimately, oil pressure does that. I had problems with my Hynautics controls 4 years ago. Mathers did not service these any more but did have an exchange program going for upgrading. Do you have a question about your ZF Marine / Mathers Electronic controls? I ve only used Morse and Cat electronic controls, never MMC but I ve heard issues with random engagement and shifting delays. Actually, we discussed that already a few months ago in. Has anyone here done that and did it work out well? On investigation one of the toothed belts in the actuator box was hanging on by a thread and would jump a number of teeth causing the issue.

I suppose that even 100% electronic engines need something to turn an electronic signal into a physical gear change. OP I have hynautic engine controls and just went through the serious contemplation of switching to Glendenning electric. But the strange power readings are a clue to the problem. I wouldnt trade hynautic for electronics.

Powered by vBulletin Version 4.1.4 Copyright 2022 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. 30HP. However, what's changed is production. -ELECTRONIC CONTROL ACCESSORIES- How much did it cost? Chucking parts @ it without an accurate Dx Hmm . If so, who is your MC guy? and reconditioned units to help get you back on the water fast. CruiseCommand, MasterCommand, MiniCommand, or SmartCommand, WE CAN HELP! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE BOC (and remove advertising), http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/iny?limitstart=0. Toll-Free: 855-MATHERS (855-628-4377) Applicable to software package Version 7.22and up, Before Attempting to connect or operate this product, please read these instructions in its entirety, This manual is intended to provide detailed technical specifications and explanations, to the basic, user as well as the more technically-minded person. Mini Command

They are good and still supporte. WKRP in cincinnati. I must admit that I didnt realise that the ZF Marine division was based in Italy. I had the same experience, on one engine only, made for an interesting attempt at anchoring after dark in the wet and wind. It just beeps at me and won't shift. All was perfect until pulling back into the slings. I struggle with the issues that electronic controls bring but at some point may not have a choice. In ZF g/boxes (like the 350 in my boat and the 665V in Deleted User boat), the control valve can be either mechanical or electrical - it's just a matter of ordering it with the appropriate version. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Plus, sync is built in. All times are GMT-8. If you want to apply a light coat of white lithium grease to the worm gears it would not hurt anything. After reading your post, I was going to reply that what you experienced can't happen to Deleted User, because he doesn't have the unit you are describing. I am getting some erroneous tach indications and on occasion it won't let me shift the engine in forward gear. After much deliberation I stayed with Hynautic. Does anyone know where we can get them looked at locally? I was on on a 43 Roberson that had just had a complete refit and was out on a test run. Keep life simpleenjoy the cruise. I run customers boats equipped with them as well. ended up the circuit boards in the controllers. I would never replace a Hynautic system with electric. You must log in or register to reply here. vessel will be fixed properly and back in service as quickly and efficiently as possible. Luckily the guy on the mic knew it was him and he released the button. He can rebuild your system if needed. Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Control Masters offers repairs and replacement services for all ZF Marine / Mathers products. I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but the Microcommander controls on my son's commercial fishing boat started giving errors and we traced it to the drive belts. Contact Us About ZF Marine / Mathers Support, Control Masters Marine Systems A customer of mine did a retrofit with Sea Star electronics. MMCs are very sensitive to static and rfi but great controllers when operating correctly. I replaced both reservoir canisters and had the controls rebuilt by Sea Tech of San Diego for 10 boat bucks.

But that's my point, they are not - hence no cables, just wires. Previously: Bayliner 3818 in PNW. we ended up doing the upgrade. The Bayliner Owners Club is a gathering place for Bayliner Owners and prospective owners. I had the Micro Commanders in my last boat and had one engine stuck in gear as I was entering a narrow fairway, was able to shift the other to reverse and get out of the channel, then I just shut down the controls at the breaker and then turned them back on and everything was ok. Scared the you no what out of me. Mine are about 10 years old. Talk about holy crap! A great guy , he will go through your problems on the phone . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb8e49zCMJo. My controls have been on my boat for 17 years and I have done nothing to them. John. Call Gary at Marine Control Systems. I have thought about doing that. No matter what size or model of Bayliner Boat that you have or are contemplating, we have members here who have that same model and would enjoy discussing it in a friendly, welcoming environment. I have microcommanders installed by previous owner during repower/refit. Its still supported by the ZF service network globally. haven't had a problem since and have had no Ghosts in the 12v side of our boat with every ground on the boat gone through, cleaned and repaired. The aging Hynautic equipment is becoming more and more problematic.

Cruise Command Ive never had any get stuck in gear, but the delay in shifting is VERY pronounced and VERY irritating. Clear Command We stock both new They work very well and there is no perceivable delay in shifting (maybe 1/2 second?). By logging into your account, you agree to our. You are using an out of date browser. Any suggestion who I could call? I had a problem with my ZF Microcommanders (585s) earlier this year, every now and then the station would emit a beeping sound and the shift would do either odd things or stop completely. Mag535 are you in the PNW? Couple that with not many techs know and understand the system. CONTROL HEAD OPTIONS I would recommend Ed at Control Masters Inc. for ZF control support. I'll check out the existing unit once I replace it. Novurania 335DL. Smart Command It may not display this or other websites correctly.